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Comment by Gregory Richards on February 4, 2013 at 2:24pm

The city cannot fire him. Like any union (government) member he has protections built into the contract. There is a whole process they must go by, step by step and it takes time and is extremely hard to do.

What many of you do not know is the city tried to fire him and failed, on several different occasions. So they did the next best thing they could, they shipped him off to the county drug task force.

The BPD wanted no part of him and many are privatly happy he had gotten his due.

Comment by Justin Riccobono on January 26, 2013 at 7:23pm
Just to comment on this ordeal, the new chief has been doing a great job and the officers have been stepping it up. Overtime has been reduced and we are still adding new ways to reduce spending and increase efficiencies.

Now getting rid of bad apples is easier said then done. The city tried to get rid of this particular officer over six years ago and due to collective bargining and union protection, that could not be accomplished, He is currently suspended with pay due to union protection as well. Not to speak down on unions, but there are many things that leave the city's hands tied and this situation is a prime example.
Comment by Anna West on January 20, 2013 at 9:02am

Well, I am sorry I did not communicate clearly if that is what you got from what I wrote.

Comment by Ben Royce on January 19, 2013 at 1:36pm

Anna, you can't judge the entire BPD by a few bad apples. There's plenty in the Beacon Police Department doing a good solid job. You're not being fair to the good cops.

That being said, City Council, Mayor, new Chief: please get rid of the bad apples.

I'm certain there are guys and gals on the force who agree with me 110% when I say that. They don't want to be made to look bad and their reputations and hard work sullied by someone they probably have some knowledge is not exactly above deck in their behavior.

Comment by Anna West on January 19, 2013 at 11:34am

Let me give you an example.   Say you were making 80K at your job.  The next year, something happened and for not much more work--you made 180K.   The third year, for almost the same amount of work, you return to 80K.  Don't you think you will work less?  Find places to sleep, f*k, etc while working?   Anyone would begrudge working at such a "lower" pay even if that extra 100K wasn't exactly for comparable amount of work.  So you are bummed that you are working for a lot lower pay, and do whatever you can to "make up" for it.  Sue for promotions, teach new police officers the wrong way, maybe steal office supplies etc.  This is all guessing, from the psych profile of someone with extreme changes in pay.

One time I had a job and the woman "taught" me to take 45 minutes when going to the post office.  If I only took the 10 minutes it really took she would get really angry. I was supposed to go grocery shopping, read a book, take a nap etc or I would never be allowed to go to the post office again.   She "taught" me to not turn on the phone until 9:30 instead of 9AM. Because she never came in on time and told boss it took an half hour to do office work before turning on the phone.   There are a zillion things you can do to "get back" your pay.  So other employees might get "taught" like I was.  (I quit).  So either other employees are contaminated or they left.  How you change that is the problem.   You think that bopping was the first time it happened with an "informant"?

Yes, the overtime happened in 2006 and is continuing in some format forever unless there is a drastic change.

Comment by Anna West on January 19, 2013 at 10:05am

The department has been running wild for many many years. The article is proof that nothing has changed.  I like the new chief. But, it is really really hard to change a department that has bad apples. The whole department can be contaminated and needs a specialist, with a lot of big city or "group change psych" experience. The fact that he"fits" might not be that helpful.   I don't know if he is studying/knows/ etc about how to radically change a group of people.   I worked for someone who did that for many years and it is not easy without previous knowledge, experience.  People who do that have to work with a more experienced person for many years before they can do it on their own.

Comment by pete nocerino on January 18, 2013 at 5:19pm
This overtime figure in the article is from 2006. I heard the Cheif has implemented shift changes to minimize overtime I hope it is helping. Who knows how long and how many are raking in this type of dough. He could be one ofyou the lowest paid guy in the department at this point. I hope not!

This Department has been running wild for years. I agree that the site of drug baggies have clearly diminished and the K-9's have been certified to sniff for drugs. These are big accomplishments and should be acknowledged. Consider that what this article alleges about this Bozo, our Cheif may have a tougher job than some think.
Comment by Ben Royce on January 18, 2013 at 9:32am

the new chief is doing fine

he actually responded to an email about the drug baggie problem, stemming from a discussion on this site, i posted it here:

to be honest, i've seen a lot less of them since

that's a nice response from our police chief, to a complaint posted on this site

but why would you want someone from NYC?

we're a small hudson valley city. so is monticello (where the new chief is from). that seems like a better fit, in my opinion, in terms of experience about what to expect and the kinds of problems he will face on the job here, than someone from NYC

Comment by Anna West on January 18, 2013 at 7:34am

Yes, there should have been firings over the overtime issues years ago.  Read the comments, I want to know why we don't hire NYC police?  I was really surprised when our new chief was from a town just like us. From my experience in NYC, family, several other states--we need a complete revamp of department. That would mean someone with plenty of a different kind of experience. No offense to the new chief but ...

Meanwhile, the contract says full pay until court which means he is getting 6 months of paid vacation until March on our taxes. At least he won't get overtime. hahahah   That contract needs to be changed.

Reading the article, can anyone guess who will be running for office next time?

Comment by pete nocerino on January 17, 2013 at 5:40pm
If only 25% of this is true it is pathetic, but what make me insane it this overtime nonsense. It is just nuts!

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