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Newburgh, Number 1 Murder City in New York State with Poughkeepsie coming in 2nd.

NY Magazine has a story on Newburgh which should discourage anyone from crossing the river.  The good thing is the article states it is nothing like its Bohemian neighbor, Beacon.

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Comment by Bud Siegel on September 30, 2011 at 9:02am
I think you are right.  I don't think of Lea Michele, Rob Reiner and Tony Curtis as gang members.  I'm sure when it comes to organized gangs there is some connection between gang-related crime in the Bronx and Newburgh, but the Bronx as metaphor for urban problems is a bit old.
Comment by Anna West on September 30, 2011 at 8:58am

You are completely right, I was going down the clique route myself.  I do know they made a concentrated effort to bring people to Newburgh from other places and that these people did not have any family here. That was in the 50's and not really related to gangs.



Comment by Philomena on September 29, 2011 at 11:15pm
Have to say I just get a little tired of this "Bronx" stuff  - sure don't recall anyone except my brother ,who was highly courted by Texaco as a chemical engineer, even knowing where the hell Beacon or Newburgh was. It's as if just by being born in the Bronx, there is something intrinsically wrong with you. So is everyone from the Bronx a  natural born gang member ? How is that thinking any different than the "us vs. them" attitude of Beaconites born here vs. those that moved here ?
Comment by Anna West on September 29, 2011 at 7:38pm

Steve, I think you are mis-informed, and using way too many silly quotes too. But that is what happens when people rely on slogans to preach.  In the 50's, they encouraged people from the Bronx to come up for low paying factory jobs. Then the jobs left, and the people were stuck up here. There was a article/radio show on Newburgh history.


The gangs are an extremely serious problem and sending children to prison just teaches them how to be criminals and places them in the gangs.

Comment by Ben Royce on September 29, 2011 at 4:54pm

Steve: I am a flaming liberal and I detest what "urban renewal" did to Beacon and Newburgh's waterfronts. You can't equate a ridiculous idea from 50 years ago with broad political philosophy.


I was thinking of something more along the lines of extending the tracks they are going to run to Stewart from the Port Jervis line, on into Newburgh. Why? One of the reasons Beacon rebounded in the last 10-20 years and Newburgh did not is easy access to New York City. Beacon has great transportation, Newburgh does not. That's the difference and that is what I was referring to, not that shameful stupid idea of wiping out the waterfront.


Comment by Steve Knowles on September 29, 2011 at 4:37pm
Unfortunately, it's the "urban planning geniuses" that produced what we see today as beautiful downtown Newburg!  Unless I have been mis-informed, it was the "urban planning" associated with "urban renewal" of the 1960's that planted the seeds for the fruit of today (combined with a very heavy dose of the other "Great Society" programs).  If there is a poster child for why liberal philosphy always fails, just look across the river.
Comment by Anna West on September 29, 2011 at 1:53pm

Thanks for posting the link, amazing NY Magazine has such a long article about a town not in NYC. Don't forget to read the comments.



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