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Chrystie House Do Not Let The Signs Stop You!

Hi everyone today I was given a tour of the Chrystie House and it is a real treasure. Thank You Yaun Lee for preserving a very special part of Wodenethe.It was really special to see the original plantings of H.W.Sargent.We are all lucky to have such a world renowned artist in our community

I am writing this at 3:22AM  because the horticulturist inside me was bothered by what I saw and can not sleep on it. What's up with the unfriendly neighbors,the anti naturalistic signage and parking lot on the former road to Wodenethe,both Henry Winthrop Sargent and Andrew Jackson Downing are probably turning in their graves!

I recommend everyone to check out chrystiehouse.com DO NOT BE TURNED AWAY BY THE SIGNS as I was originally when I was researching for my book "The Mystery of The Magical Cucumber Tree" with my ten year old daughter. Thank You Yaun Lee for inviting my family back!

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Comment by Ben Royce on August 29, 2012 at 3:01pm
Oh, just another kind of outdoor game,  
One on a side. It comes to little more:  
He is all pine and I am apple-orchard.  
My apple trees will never get across  
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.   
He only says, "Good fences make good neighbors."

Robert Frost, "Mending Wall"

http://www.bartleby.com/104/64.html

Comment by Richie Cabo on August 29, 2012 at 11:31am

I am sorry but I can not engage with you on this topic negatively. You have me confused with some one else as I never approached you about your Podarosa Pine because I felt you were unapproachable. If anyone could propagate that tree I would be the one but I was turned away once by your wife, You were sitting quietly on your chair and my daughter was sitting in my Toyota. We had just discovered Wodenethe after going to the Newburgh Historical Society, Beacon Library and the Beacon Historical Society, I recognized your home as being one of the Downing /Vaux styled houses and when I asked if the Chrystie House was up the road I was told that I could not enter and my ten year old daughter and I left disappointed when I was researching for my book " The Mystery of The Magical Cucumber Tree". This is probably why I dubbed you in my opinion the "Unfriendly nieghbor". Because although all the facts you mentioned may have been true, I as a nieghbor would have said, "If you drive just a bit up the road you may access the Chystie House with the next road to the right" . Because of the way I was treated as a "stranger", and I was very respectful and not speeding, I never got to simply see the Chrystie House until after I had already published my book about the history of  Beacon's horticulture.Just for the record I really am not the one who called you unfriendly, it was many of your nieghbors after I found out more about the situation between you and Mr. Lee.

 I apologize to you publicly if you feel that I was attacking you personally but I did not mean to. What I meant was that people should not let the signs stop them from finding the Chystie House as the signs stopped me and my daughter. Because as I read in an article at the Beacon Howland Library people traveled from all over the U.S. to see the horticultural work of Henry Winthrop Sargent at Wodenethe, and for me the many in your face signs seemed so unnatural in such a natural place.I can understand though that for the price you probably paid for your home you wanted peace of mind.It is just that you live in an important place in the history and I can see how you might find that problamatic.In the 1800's in the Hudson Valley it was common to have low stone walls and today some type of fencing seems more practical than the war zone the signs seem to implicate. Your right it should not matter to me but I felt kind of sad as I looked at where Henry Winthrop Sargent once stood and saw the sinage. I am sorry for feeling sad!

I have dedicated much of my time to reminding people of the past so they could respect the importance of growing trees, plants and teach good things to the children in the present.I hope you two can live happier together as nieghbors in such a wonderful place.I was hoping to reach you with my blog so that maybe we could get to a better place.I have saved the 9/11 Survivor Tree from the World Trade Center attacks. When I look at trees I see more than the average person, It's my life's work.

Please visit richiecabohorticulturist.com & sdgardens.com and Sargent~Downing Gardens on facebook

Comment by Greg Grann on August 29, 2012 at 10:45am

As the "unfriendly neighbor" you're referring to, let me tell you what's up with us. The signage is NOT anti naturalistic... its anti B&B customers on our property. We have never had a sign anywhere on our property until Mr Lee decided to use it for his commercial purposes. My Lee enjoys a 10 ft wide easement across our property for residential use. When the City of Beacon granted Mr Lee a Special Use permit for his B&B business, they were sympathetic ( as anyone with common sense has been) to our objections to the constant stream of B&B traffic traveling back and forth across, up and down our property, disrupting our peace and privacy, and required Mr Lee to build a driveway on his own property to accommodate the business traffic. If you had bothered to read our politely worded sign at the two properties border asking B&B customers to please respect our privacy and used the driveway intended and required for the B&B use and NOT the one on our property you would have know this. In spite of all of this, Mr Lee customers continue to drive and walk on not only our driveway but our lawns as well, wandering down and peering in our windows and using our lawn furniture. Perhaps as a horticulturist you would enjoy these intrusions however we do not. If Mr Lee wants to live a life running a business entertaining strangers that fine but he should not be so disrespectful and inconsiderate of us by inflicting that upon us. When he first moved here Mr Lee informed us that he was going to be the steward of all the property, including ours!, never mentioning his plan to run a business across our property. Mr Lee, in his self importance and arrogance, failed to appreciate or respect our property and privacy rights for the beginning and continues to this day by not ensuring his business customers do not infringe on our property and privacy. As you know, having visited our property in the past yourself to view our Ponderosa Pine, parties interested in anything on our property are always welcomed with the same respect as we're shown, as you were. However strangers using our property as if it was part of the B&B business are not welcome. As for the "parking lot on the former road to Wodenethe", first of all it is a driveway for residential use on private property, not a road. Second, I don't see how we choose to park our cars on our property is any of your concern. Frankly, we used to park our cars tucked snugly against our wall leaving as much room as possible for our neighbor's to get by although it was inconvenient for us. However after years of a total lack or consideration on the part of Mr Lee by allowing, if not encouraging his customers to use our property to enter and exit his business when he has his own driveway mandated by the City on his own property to do so, we felt no need or compulsion to show Mr Lee any consideration by allowing him any more than the 10 ft wide easement he is entitled to. And if that inhibits work trucks, B&B customers and weekend sight seers from speeding past our front door and across our property, then that is fine with us, as I'm sure it would be with anyone who has had to put up with and endure what we've had to thanks to Mr Lee. I'm sure Sargent and Downing would share our commitment to protecting property and privacy rights even if you and Mr Lee do not. Obviously you've heard Mr Lee's side of the story and now you've heard ours. I would have thought you would have sought it out before taking it upon your self to slam us in this forum. If you wish to discuss this with us in person instead of writing about something on which you seem to be so misinformed, you're welcome to stop by anytime.

Comment by Greg Grann on August 29, 2012 at 10:44am

As the "unfriendly neighbor" you're referring to, let me tell you what's up with us. The signage is NOT anti naturalistic... its anti B&B customers on our property. We have never had a sign anywhere on our property until Mr Lee decided to use it for his commercial purposes. My Lee enjoys a 10 ft wide easement across our property for residential use. When the City of Beacon granted Mr Lee a Special Use permit for his B&B business, they were sympathetic ( as anyone with common sense has been) to our objections to the constant stream of B&B traffic traveling back and forth across, up and down our property, disrupting our peace and privacy, and required Mr Lee to build a driveway on his own property to accommodate the business traffic. If you had bothered to read our politely worded sign at the two properties border asking B&B customers to please respect our privacy and used the driveway intended and required for the B&B use and NOT the one on our property you would have know this. In spite of all of this, Mr Lee customers continue to drive and walk on not only our driveway but our lawns as well, wandering down and peering in our windows and using our lawn furniture. Perhaps as a horticulturist you would enjoy these intrusions however we do not. If Mr Lee wants to live a life running a business entertaining strangers that fine but he should not be so disrespectful and inconsiderate of us by inflicting that upon us. When he first moved here Mr Lee informed us that he was going to be the steward of all the property, including ours!, never mentioning his plan to run a business across our property. Mr Lee, in his self importance and arrogance, failed to appreciate or respect our property and privacy rights for the beginning and continues to this day by not ensuring his business customers do not infringe on our property and privacy. As you know, having visited our property in the past yourself to view our Ponderosa Pine, parties interested in anything on our property are always welcomed with the same respect as we're shown, as you were. However strangers using our property as if it was part of the B&B business are not welcome. As for the "parking lot on the former road to Wodenethe", first of all it is a driveway for residential use on private property, not a road. Second, I don't see how we choose to park our cars on our property is any of your concern. Frankly, we used to park our cars tucked snugly against our wall leaving as much room as possible for our neighbor's to get by although it was inconvenient for us. However after years of a total lack or consideration on the part of Mr Lee by allowing, if not encouraging his customers to use our property to enter and exit his business when he has his own driveway mandated by the City on his own property to do so, we felt no need or compulsion to show Mr Lee any consideration by allowing him any more than the 10 ft wide easement he is entitled to. And if that inhibits work trucks, B&B customers and weekend sight seers from speeding past our front door and across our property, then that is fine with us, as I'm sure it would be with anyone who has had to put up with and endure what we've had to thanks to Mr Lee. I'm sure Sargent and Downing would share our commitment to protecting property and privacy rights even if you and Mr Lee do not. Obviously you've heard Mr Lee's side of the story and now you've heard ours. I would have thought you would have sought it out before taking it upon your self to slam us in this forum. If you wish to discuss this with us in person instead of writing about something on which you seem to be so misinformed, you're welcome to stop by anytime.

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